gubici Forda dostigli 18 milijardi, dolara naravno

[sw.brick]

svezi podaci da je grupacija Ford usla u pozajmicu 18 milijardi dolara, i da se hitno trazi kes pa je Aston Martin u oglasima na prodaju a Volvo najavljen takodje na prodaju.

da li je dostignuto dno, moze li da se dogodi oporavak ili se nastavlja agonija, spekulacijama pogodna situacija ?

[Bane R]

Pa ne znam šta je čudno da u "way forward" akciji imaš gubitak od 18 mld ...

[Horsepower]

Jos nijedno vozilo Way Fordward plana nije uslo u proizvodnju.
Najvise problema imaju Fordove strane kompanije, da nije njih Ford bi bio u plusu.

[Bane R]

[206]

Jos nijedno vozilo Way Fordward plana nije uslo u proizvodnju.
Najvise problema imaju Fordove strane kompanije, da nije njih Ford bi bio u plusu.

Pricam ti pricu.

[BRABUS]

Jos nijedno vozilo Way Fordward plana nije uslo u proizvodnju.
Najvise problema imaju Fordove strane kompanije, da nije njih Ford bi bio u plusu.

Za way forward smo pricali na drugoj temi

A ovo da Fordove strane kompanije imaju problem je ordinarna glupost. Ford Europe je u veoma malom minusu, PAG je u minusu debelom, ali u poredjenju s time sto Ford USA pravi je p****n dim. Mazda nije konsolidovana u Ford-ove finansije, koliko znam, tako da i da pravi gubitak nema nikakvog cash outflow-a iz Forda.


Aston ide na dobos, Jaguar niko nece

A da, Chief Marketing Officer i sef Volvo-a je juce dao ostavku na sve funkcije

[BRABUS]

Ford posts $12.7 billion loss for 2006


DETROIT (Reuters) -- Ford Motor Co. today posted a fourth quarter loss of almost $5.8 billion on declining sales of its profitable trucks and charges for employee buyouts.

For the full year, Ford lost $12.7 billion, its deepest loss in its 103-year history. The previous record net loss was $7.39 billion in 1992.

Ford, which is in the early stages of a turnaround plan that includes closing 16 plants and cutting up to 45,000 jobs in North America, recorded a net loss of $3.05 a share during the fourth quarter, compared with a loss of $74 million, or 4 cents a share, a year ago.

The loss from continuing operations was $1.10 cents a share, which was deeper than the average Wall Street analyst expectations of a loss of 94 cents per share as tracked by Reuters Estimates.

[BRABUS]

Ford expects Premier Automotive Group profit in '07

Key calculation: Volvo black ink must hide Jag's red

After losing money for three years, Ford's Premier Automotive Group may be back in the black in 2007.

"We expect PAG to be profitable this year," said Ford CFO Don Leclair.

It boils down to this: Can Volvo earn more than Jaguar will lose?

In 2006, the four European luxury brands lost $327 million before taxes. That brought their three-year losses to $1.15 billion.

Blame Jaguar for most of the red ink. Ford sources say the British brand has lost $500 million to $1 billion a year since 2001. Jaguar executives concede the unit likely will lose money in 2007 and 2008 as well.

Ford does not break out earnings for individual PAG brands. But insiders say Volvo traditionally shores up the group's bottom line.

Volvo typically has earned $800 million to $1.2 billion a year. Land Rover has begun to eke out a slim profit, sources say.

In 2006, an aging product line hampered Volvo's performance, contributing to losses at the Swedish unit in the second and third quarters.

PAG's lineup of new products "is being very well received," said Ford CEO Alan Mulally. "They are making tremendous progress, all of those brands, on their quality and productivity."

Last year's $327 million loss compared with an $89 million loss in 2005. Leclair said the earnings decline last year "is more than explained by prior-model warranty accrual adjustments at Jaguar and Land Rover, as well as unfavorable currency exchange."

This year's expected pretax profit would not include a one-time gain from the sale of Aston Martin. That deal, which should add about $1 billion to Ford's coffers, is expected to be announced before April.

Three suitors, who have not been publicly identified, are vying for the rights to Aston, which rarely has turned a profit in nearly a century of existence.

[Horsepower]

Pazi ovo:

Domestics trail the Japanese by $2900 in per vehicle profit. The main reason there's such disparity is labor costs. Sure we've been hearing that line for a while, but check out the data supporting it. Health care alone accounts for $1,635 per vehicle for GM. That's how much they spend on every active AND retired worker. Toyota on the other hand doesn't have many retired workers, doesn't spend a dime on them, and only pays about $215 for health care for active workers. Add to that the $630 per vehicle GM spends on other union related costs like work rules, line relief and holiday pay, plus the $350 per vehicle pay UAW workers get for not working when plants are shut, and you start to see where part of the problem lies.

[206]

"...where PART of the problem lies..."

I koga to interesuje?

[Horsepower]

Ocigledno tebe cim si procitao.

[206]

Za njihove probleme me zabole cosak.

Mislio sam na to da im za probleme i greske u poslovanju nije kriv niko rugi nego oni sami. Jel' ih terao neko da tako katastrofalno lose raspolazu sredstvima i prave takve dilove stetne za kompaniju?

Japanci daju 10x manje...samo pokazuje koliko su japanci pametniji od ovih mastodonata.

Brojevi, odnosno dobitak i gubitak su jedini bitni. Razlozi zasto neko gubi novac mogu da budu izgovor samo onima koji novac i gube, nikoga drugog to ne interesuje.

Ne znas, ne mozes, tesko, ovaj problem, onaj problem...pomeri se kad ne znas, ima ko zna i moze bolje od tebe. Tako ce i biti.

[Horsepower]

Japanci daju 10x manje...samo pokazuje koliko su japanci pametniji od ovih mastodonata.

Pametniji? Mozda. Najverovatnije jesu.

Ali takodje pokazuje da Japance nije ni najmanje briga za svojim radnicima dok Amere jeste briga. Mozda tebi i meni to nije vazno jer ne radimo za njih, ali da radimo video bi kolika je razlika u pitanju za radnika.

[Car]

Ameri filantropi. Neverovatan si.

[206]

I ne treba da ih je briga. Radis koliko si placen, plate te koliko radis, daju ti ono sto moraju da daju, i gotova prica.

A ove lenstine u Fordu navikle da ih tetose ceo zivot, ko pre nas u socijalizmu, te besplatno ono te dzaba ovo. Ford ode u 3 lepe zbog silne brige o radnicima, ko ce da brine posle o njima?

Opet, niko im nije kriv.