Quatro pogon na putnickim automobilima,ko je bio prvi ?

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  • starac vujadin
    CBC Senator XXL
    • 27.08.2005
    • 2617
    • Stari grad

    #16
    Torsen nije Audijev sistem vec pronalazak jedne americke kompanije koji je dostupan svima (koji to mogu da plate...). Stavljan je i u Deltu Integrale u 4wd, Maserati Shamal u rwd, kao i u Integru u fwd konfiguracijama.

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    • Nenad
      CBC Senator XXL
      • 06.01.2005
      • 1364
      • BBgd/Mow

      #17
      A ko je rekao da ga je Audi izmislio?? Ja nisam.
      Ja sam rekao da je Audijev sistem sa pogonom na 4 tocka u kojem je Torsen - ni manje ni vise.
      Boost or bust...

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      • starac vujadin
        CBC Senator XXL
        • 27.08.2005
        • 2617
        • Stari grad

        #18
        ...ok, ali onda je trebalo drugacije da formulises recenicu...

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        • oooo quattro
          CBC Veteran
          • 01.08.2007
          • 126
          • Zrenjanin

          #19
          Peace braćo, samo sam hteo da raspravu malo začinim. Nadam se da se ne ljutite.
          Pozdrav svima!!!

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          • oooo quattro
            CBC Veteran
            • 01.08.2007
            • 126
            • Zrenjanin

            #20
            Ako nekoga još uvek interesuje ova tema.
            Sad bez zajebancije. Nije audi izmislio pogon na sva četiri točka. bilo je dosta automobila sa takvim pogonom pre quattro. Razlika je u tome što je audi prvi uspeo da izradi takav prenos koji je omogućavao vožnju automobila sa permanentnim pogonom na sva četiri točka. Čak i čuveni willis koji se imao 4X4 nije mogao da se vozi po asfalti i betonu sa permanentnim 4X4 nego je imao ručicu da se isključi prednji pogon. Audi je ovo uspeo tako što je ugradio treći diferencijal između prednjg i zadnjeg pogona. O ovoj temi je čak i na dicavery-u napravljena cela emisija
            Pozdrav!

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            • starac vujadin
              CBC Senator XXL
              • 27.08.2005
              • 2617
              • Stari grad

              #21
              Ni to nije tacno - Jensen FF je imao Fergusonov permanentni pogon na sva 4 tocka davno pre Audija. Pored toga taj auto je imao i ABS, davno pre drugih.

              Inace, Audi je ovih dana delio letke u novinama u kome su se hvalili kako su prvi izmislili diesel sa dir.ubrizgvanjem, 4x4 pogon i spaceframe sasiju...

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              • Nenad
                CBC Senator XXL
                • 06.01.2005
                • 1364
                • BBgd/Mow

                #22
                Osim Jensena takav pogon je koristio i Ford Capri sa motorom 2.8L

                History

                The true inventor of four-wheel drive is not really known; the history of such was not well recorded. In 1893, before the establishment of a modern automotive industry in Britain, English engineer Joeseph Bramah Diplock patented a four wheel drive system for a traction engine, including four-wheel steering and three differentials, which was subsequently built. The development also incorporated Bramagh's Pedrail wheel system in what was one of the first four-wheel drive automobiles to display an intentional ability to travel on challenging road surfaces. It stemmed from Bramagh's previous idea of developing an engine that would reduce the amount of damage to public roads.

                Ferdinand Porsche designed and built a four-wheel driven Electric vehicle for the k. u. k. Hofwagenfabrik Ludwig Lohner & Co. at Vienna in 1899, presented to the public during the 1900 World Exhibition at Paris. The vehicle was powered by an electric hub motor at each wheel, a design later used by NASA in the Lunar rover. Although clumsily heavy, the vehicle proved a powerful sprinter and record-breaker in the hands of its owner E.W. Hart. Due to its unusual status the so-called Lohner-Porsche is not widely credited as the first four-wheel driven automobile.

                The first four-wheel drive car, as well as hill-climb racer, with internal combustion engine, the Spyker 60 H.P., was presented in 1903 by Dutch brothers Jacobus and Hendrik-Jan Spijker of Amsterdam. The two-seat sports car, which was also the first ever car equipped with a six-cylinder engine, is now an exhibit in the Louwman Collection (the former Nationaal Automobiel Museum) at Raamsdonksveer in The Netherlands.

                Designs for four-wheel drive in the U.S., came from the Twyford Company of Brookville, Pennsylvania in 1905, six were made there around 1906; one still exists and is displayed annually.[3] The second U.S. four-wheel drive vehicle was built in 1908 by (what became) the Four Wheel Drive Auto Company (FWD) of Wisconsin. FWD would later produce over 20,000 of its four-wheel drive Model B trucks for the British and American armies during World War I. Thousands of the Jeffery Quad (1913-1919) were similarly used. The Reynolds-Alberta Museum has a four-wheel drive "Michigan" car from about 1905 in unrestored storage.

                Daimler-Benz also has a history in four-wheel drive. In 1907 the Daimler Motoren Gesellschaft had built a four-wheel driven vehicle called Dernburg-Wagen, also equipped with four-wheel steering, that was used by German colonial civil servant, Bernhard Dernburg, in Namibia. Mercedes and BMW, in 1926, introduced a rather sophisticated four-wheel drive, the G1, the G4 and G4 following. The 1937 Mercedes-Benz G5 and BMW 325 4x4 featured full time four-wheel drive, four-wheel steering, three locking differentials, and fully independent suspension. They were produced because of a government demand for a four-wheel drive passenger vehicle. The modern G-series/Wolf such as the G500 and G55 AMG still feature some of the attributes, with the exception of fully independent suspension since it hinders suspension articulation. The Unimog is another Mercedes truck.

                It was not until "go-anywhere" vehicles were needed for the military that four-wheel drive found its place. The Jeep, originally developed by American Bantam but mass-produced by Willys and Ford, became the best-known four-wheel drive vehicle in the world during World War II. Willys (since 1950 owner of the Jeep name) introduced the CJ-2A in 1945 as the first full-production four-wheel drive passenger vehicle. Possibly beaten by the 1941 GAZ-61.

                The Land Rover appeared at the Amsterdam Motor Show in 1948, originally conceived as a stop-gap product for the struggling Rover car company, and despite chronic under-investment succeeded far better than the passenger cars. Land Rover developed a luxury 4WD with the Range Rover in the 1970s, which, unlike some offerings from other manufacturers, was capable of serious off-road use. The inspiration was a Willys MB that was frequently run off-road on the farm belonging to chief engineer Maurice Wilks, and was felt that it needed some refinement.

                Kaiser Jeep introduced a 4WD wagon called the Wagoneer in 1963. It was revolutionary at the time, not only because of its technical innovations such as an independent front suspension and the first automatic transmission with 4WD, but also because it was equipped and finished as a regular passenger automobile. The Super Wagoneer (1966 to 1969) was powered by Rambler or Buick V8s. Its high level of equipment made it the first "luxury" SUV. American Motors (AMC) acquired Kaiser's Jeep Division in 1970 and quickly upgraded and expanded the entire line of serious off-road built 4WD vehicles. The top range full-size Wagoneer Limited continued to compete with traditional luxury cars. It was relatively unchanged during its production through 1991, even after Chrysler's buyout of AMC.

                Jensen applied the Formula Ferguson full-time all-wheel drive system to 318 units of their Jensen FF built from 1966 to 1971, marking the first time 4WD was used in a production GT sports car.[4] Subaru introduced mass-produced the Leone in 1972 featuring a part-time four-wheel drive systems that could not be engaged on dry pavement. The American Motors Company introduced a full time AWD vehicle the same year as the Subaru in the Jeep Cherokee and Wagoneer with Quadra Trac (1973 model year first models sold in Sept 1972)[5]. It dominated all other makes in FIA rally competition, due to the performance of the full time AWD, which did not require the driver to get out of the vehicle to lock hubs or manually select between 2WD and 4WD modes in the car like other American 4-wheel drive vehicles of the period. Drivers Gene Henderson and Ken Pogue won the FIA championship with a quadratrac equipped Jeep in 1972

                American Motors introduced the innovative Eagle for the 1980 model year.[7] This was the world's first complete line (sedan, coupe, and station wagon) of permanent automatic all-wheel drive passenger models. The new Eagles combined Jeep technology with an existing and proven AMC passenger automobile platform. They ushered a whole new product category of "sport-utility" or Crossover SUV. AMC's Eagles came with the comfort and high level appointments expected of regular passenger models and used the off-road technology for an extra margin of safety and traction.[8]

                The Eagle's thick viscous fluid center differential provided quiet and smooth transfer of power that was directed proportionally to the axle with the greatest traction. This was a true full-time system operating only in four-wheel drive without undue wear on suspension or driveline components. There was no low range in the transfer case. This became the forerunner of the designs that followed from other manufacturers. The automobile press at the time tested the traction of the Eagles and described it as far superior to the Subaru's and that it could beat many so-called off-road vehicles. Four Wheeler magazine concluded that the AMC Eagle was "The beginning of a new generation of cars."[9]

                The Eagles were popular (particularly in the snowbelt), had towing capacity, and came in several equipment levels including sport and luxury trims. Two additional models were added in 1981, the sub-compact SX/4 and Kammback. A manual transmission and a front axle-disconnect feature were also made available for greater fuel economy. During 1981 and 1982 a unique convertible was added to the line. The Eagle's monocoque body was reinforced for the conversion and had a steel targa bar with a removable fiberglass roof section.

                The Eagle station wagon remained in production for one year after Chrysler Corporation acquired AMC in 1987.

                Audi also introduced a permanently all-wheel driven road-going car, the Audi Quattro, in 1980. Audi's chassis engineer, Jorg Bensinger, had noticed in winter tests in Scandinavia that a vehicle used by the German Army, the Volkswagen Iltis, could beat any high performance Audi. He proposed developing a four-wheel drive car, soon used for rallying to improve Audi's conservative image, the resulting rally bred Audi Quattro was a famous and historically significant Rally car. This feature was also extended to Audi's production cars and is still available.


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