FRENCH CLUB

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Those wonderful french cars ...

Yeah, I love those beautiful and sometimes provoking french cars.

http://www.pbase.com/arekarlsen/french_cars

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Gledao sam danas na VOX-u emisiju "Auto motor und sport" uporedni test novog Grande Punta 1,3 Multijet 16V emotion, Clia 1,5 dCI Privilege i Pola 1,4 TDI Comfotrtline.
Pobednik testa je CLIO, Polo je drugi a Grande Punto treći.

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LUNA..... PREVEDI, PLEASE !!!

http://www.lefigaro.fr/adv-auto/20051118.FIG0141.html

Onako, bar na kratko, u sažetku. Reč je normalno o ovoj dvojici:

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Claude Satinet, the owner of Citroen, clearly made it clear (see our editions of September 5, 2005): C 6, new flagship of the mark, took for reference Audi A 6. We quite naturally opposed them, in version 6 cylinders turbo diesel.

The FOG, the rain and the roads fatty - is it the harvest of beets in north and is France - are undoubtedly the best (worse?) conditions of test for trucks with the long course. To triumph over it, C 6 proposes traction before allied with a hydropneumatic suspension of 4E generation, where the shock absorbers react independently according to sixteen different laws per program. And the programs, there are two of them: "comfort" pompeusement called "SkyHook" (hung with the sky) or sport, called "RoadHook" (hung with the road). Thank you for the francophonie.


If Audi A 6 were seen like the reference to reach, it is not a chance. It is the only German car of this crenel in front traction. With this close Audi, for its most powerful models, conceived an integral transmission, which celebrates besides its 25 years of existence. The 3.0 TDI, strong with 225 horses, is equipped with it with series *...

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Outside, the Citroen proposes a body very "tendency" of truck-half-compartment with a back aileron being spread at high speed under the concave pane of custode. The sides are structured around a single line of case running of the front bumper to the trunk, affirming the Citroen genes, in particular those of the CX. More surprising are the two oversize rafters streaking the end of the cap before framed by low-size headlights. Audi, faithful to its practice, offers a style very purified, except the imposing grill, called "Individual Frame" from now on common to all the models of the mark. C 6 wants to allure aesthetically where A 6 already seeks to suggest the power.

C 6, asserted standing


The head offices of C 6, very of leather covered in Exclusive completion, are flattering with the eye. On this version, they offer a multitude of electrical regulations in height, depth, slope of file and base, without forgetting the maintenance of the lumbar ones. The wheel, on its side, adapts, manually, in height and depth. However, despite everything these attentions, the large carcasses as that of your servant are likely not to find a position with their suitability, the beautiful one rounded higher edge of the seat being too prominent and too high base. From this point of view, Audi regains in ergonomics the points which it concedes in esthetics.


C 6 proves as of the first glance that Citroen ended up admitting that a customer was not inevitably unconditional mark, ready to close the eyes on the "small defects". It corresponds from now on to asserted standing, with in more some pretty lucky finds like the superb sliding glove boxes of screen-door. However, more traditional Audi, still preserves, to look at there very near, a light advantage as regards completion. Bad mark shared on the other hand concerning the central block of orders (GPS, radio, air-conditioning), also not very instinctive in both cases and sometimes forcing to leave the road of the eyes to find the good key.


Thanks to its hydropneumatic suspension, C 6 can have fun to play the flying carpets. The irregularities disappear in silence under the car. The discretion of the engine takes part in the feeling of overflight. Only some noises of percussion, especially audible to the back, come to disturb quietude on board this road TGV. Audi, by the strength of sound six cylinders and the pallets under the wheel, but also a firmer suspension, more invites the pilot with the pleasures of control.


That's no problem! The suspension of C 6 has an adjustment sport which brings back for you on ground more to leave it. Comfort loses a little its wadding, but the effectiveness redoubles. The more so as the automatic gear box, in the absence of pallets, has it also a program reactive "sport". Only its higher power and, when the ground is fatty, its four driving wheels will make it possible Audi to make little by little the difference. Except as regards consumption, where the two cars make equal play, around 11 L with constant pace.


It does not remain about it less than C 6 has the best frame ever designed by the mark. Understeering only intervenes very late, a prowess taking into account the weight and architecture of the car: 1 871 kg, of which two thirds on the front one. Without much of concessions to the effectiveness, Citroen put more on the comfort and the quietude of its occupants, in particular on long distances.

After having patiently renewed the totality of its range for five years, Citroen has tried today an incursion into the French desert of the top-of-the-range one. If, in France, the bet seems reasonable, taking into account the diesel motorization, in Germany, where competition is sharp on this crenel, the challenge is raised more. However Citroen intends to sell as many C 6 in on this side and beyond the Rhine, that is to say 6 000 in full year.

An objective all the more méritoire that the mark with the rafters does not intend to fight on the prices to reach that point. C 6 and A 6 Quattro are proposed with the same tariff, with a margin of a few hundred euros. The Frenchwoman can on the other hand count on a comfort and definitely higher equipment of series. But it especially hopes to play of its difference. One can only wish him to succeed, so much it illustrates, in the automobile field, what is called the "French genius".

* For a few months, Audi has also proposed has 6 with traction before equipped with a V 6 turbo diesel of 2,7 L (like C 6). If its power is lower (180 CH against 208 in the Citroen), its price is also (33 980 to 47 400 ?).

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Ergonomija, završna obrada, motor je na strani Audija dok Citrać prednjači u ogibljenju i opremi.
Citroen misli ostvariti prodajne rezultate od 6000 Citraća godisnje...

[@lix]

Ergonomija? Ja bih ovo uzeo sa rezervom. Ljudi nenavikli na Citroene tesko mogu da procene ergonomiju nekog Citroena. Ja mislim da Citraci prednjace u ergonomiji.

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PEUGEOT 307 1.6 HDi sa samo 3.7 litara



Phillipa Piper iz Peugeot Automobiles Australia i Charlotte Dawes, student ekologije univerziteta u Sydney-u, prešle su 3.021 kilometar, od Darwina do Adelaidea, u Peugeotu 307 HDi, sa potrošnjom od samo 111 litara dizel goriva, što odgovara prosečnoj potrošnji od 3.7 litara na 100 kilometara. Taj rezultat postignut je na trci Greenfleet Class, u kojoj je učestvovalo dvanaest konstruktora. Automobil je bio opremljen motorom 1.6 HDi. Zapremina tanka iznosila je 60 litara. Automobil je bio opterećen prtljagom, klima uređaj je bio uključen, a prosečna brzina automobila kretala se od 80 do 110 km/h, u skladu sa propisanim ograničenjima brzine. U Australiji je zabeležen veliki porast prodaje dizela. Od 1996. godine, kad je Peugeot prodao stotinjak automobila sa dizel motorom, prodaja dizela je porasla dosegnuvši prošle godine više od 2 000 jedinica, što predstavlja 24 % ukupne Peugeot prodaje na tom tržištu i 7 % tržišnog udela u segmentu vozila sa dizel motorom.

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Peugeot 207 RCup - Super 2000 Rally










Motor:
2,0 litre, snaga oko 280 KS pri 8500 o/min.

Dimenzije:
dužina: 4,047 m
širina: 1,800 m
visina: 1,376 m
međuosovinski razmak: 2,560 m


Kako se nezvanično saznaje, buduća putna verzija Peugeot 207 RCup-a ( budući RC ili GTi) imaće benzinski twin turbo motor 1600 cm3 onaj koji će koristiti BMW za MINI u Cooper S Works-u 230 KS.

Twin Scroll turbo, dupli vanos, direktan einspritz 1600ccm.. To je valjda isti taj.. svi BMW/PSA 1.6 turbaci imaju twin scroll turbine... to pospešuje odziv na gas i smanjuje "turbo rupu"


Inače fenomenalan je ovaj 207 S2000. Šuška se da i VW radi S2000 Pola a Punto je već predstavljen.

[CLD]

Wow, hocu ja jednog ovakog.

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Evo jedan interesantan sajt gde možete videti poređenje performansi dva automobila koja izaberete, znači ono model "X" vs model "Y":

http://www.zeperfs.com/duel

Pogledajte na primeru Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi 110ks vs Peugeot 206 1.6 16v 110ks. Duel common rail dizela i benzinca. Ista zapremina, ista snaga ali performanse nisu

http://www.zeperfs.com/duel1241-283.htm

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E, pa pežoljubci..... zapaža li se nešto neobično na ovoj 206-ici za kinesko tržište?



C4,206,207,C3

[@lix]

Znak Citroena mozda?
Verovatno je razlog tome sto je Citroen poznata marka u Kini. Na kraju krajeva pravili su svoje vezije:
- Spaceka,
- ZX-a,
- Xantie


A mozda i jos nekog modela. Peugeot je potpuno nepoznata marka za ovo trziste, pa sada "na mala vrata" ulazi na trziste.

Jbg, znali su oni koga kupuju pre 20-ak godina. Chevron bato!

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Časopis Perfomance GTI, sad izlazi pod nazivom French cars

Ako ste ikad čuli za časopis Perfomance GTI....on sad izlazi pod nazivom French cars..

Moglo bi se reći da imamo svoj časopis ... preporučujem vam da odete malo jer je odličan. Bavi se isključivo francuskim malim jurilicama i njihovim preradama !!!
Dosta se da videti, prerada kakvih se nebi setili ili nebi usudili napraviti !!!

http://www.performancegti.com

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Pobjeda penzionera: Peugeotu ukor zbog lažnog reklamiranja

Pobjeda penzionera: Peugeotu ukor zbog lažnog reklamiranja

Sud časti pri Gospodarskoj komori oštro opomenuo automobilsku kuću


Umirovljenik Branko Peharda dobio je spor protiv Peugeota Hrvatska iz Buzina, kojim je dokazao da se automobilska kuća lažno reklamira i iznosi krive podatke o potrošnji goriva u knjižici vozila. Sud časti pri Gospodarskoj komori nedavno je dosudio u korist Peharde i oštro ukorio Peugeot zbog znatno veće potrošnje od deklarirane.

Naime, Peharda kaže da automobil Peugeot 307 1.4 HDI troši čak 40 posto više goriva nego što je navedeno u autoriziranoj knjižici vozila.

- U knjižici stoji da taj model 307-ice u kombiniranoj vožnji na 100 kilometara troši 4,5 litara, na otvorenoj cesti četiri litre dizela, a pri 100 kilometara gradske vožnje 5,5 litara dizelskog goriva. Odgovorno tvrdim da ni jedna od spomenutih brojki nije točna, a tu tezu dokazali su i ovlašteni Peugeotovi testni vozači koji su na 100 kilometra vožnje po obilaznici potrošili 6,5 litara - objašnjava Peharda. Kaže da Peugeotov model u gradskoj vožnji troši oko osam litara goriva, što je 40 posto više od navedenog.

- Moj stari dizelski Audi 80 trošio je manje od nove 307-ice - rekao je umirovljenik. Napominje da se osjeća prevarenim te da je iz svojih moralnih uvjerenja tužio veliku korporaciju, ponekad osjećajući da vodi donkihotovsku borbu.

- Nisam dobio nikakav novac, ali mi je drago da sam uspio dokazati kako su njihovi podaci čista laž. Godinu i pol Peugeot se izmotavao s raznim suludim objašnjenjima o kvaliteti goriva, ceste i slično. No, drago mi je da je Komora bila poštena - rekao je Peharda.

Sud čast pri Gospodarskoj komori ističe da je Peugeot Hrvatska iz Buzina odgovoran što je Pehardu zavarao reklamom o deklariranoj potrošnji te na taj način postupio protiv čl. 21 Zakona o obveznim odnosima, zanemarivši moralni i materijalni interes kupaca. Sud časti izrekao je Peugeotu javnu opomenu uz objavljivanje u novinama. U Peugeotu nisu htjeli komentirati slučaj, a glasnogovornica Dijana Čoso rekla je da imaju previše posla oko predstavljanja novog modela i da zato nemaju vremena komentirati Pehardin slučaj.