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  • Sasha
    CBC Senator XXL
    • 04.10.2004
    • 4126
    • Novi Sad

    #16
    Nece imati dve tone. Mislim da ce 169-ka biti extra po svim pitanjima ali ce problem biti cena od 80-90000e. Sa maseratijevim motorima i platformom ostavice iza sebe sve vrste kobasicara serija 5,e,a6 i slicne, sa senfom ili bez!
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    • BRABUS
      CBC Senator XXL
      • 15.10.2004
      • 2399
      • London

      #17
      80-90.000e ???? Nema brend Alfa kapacitet za tako nesto, a da to nije neka limitirana serija. Da ne pricam da bi time usli u rang Maseratija, a to je najmanje sto im treba, posto je i Maserati u minusu.

      Bice auto kao Citroen C6, tako pozicioniran, ciljace na ekstravaganciju i nece biti direktan takmicar "kobasicarima", jer njih ne moze niko da ugrozi u toj klasi. Shodno tome, kostace 10-15% manje.

      Jos jedan flop tipa Lancie Thesis, Fiat grupi nije potreban. Milsim da su ljud koji sada vode Fiat Auto u principu shvatili koji brend gde treba da se pozicionira. Guranje Alfe u klasu u kojoj nikada nije bila i u kojoj postoje 4 brenda na svetu koja suvereno vladaju, nece im doneti nista dobro, pa makar 169 bude jednako dobar kao VW Phaeton, za kog se zna kako je prosao iako je bio skroz u rangu S i 7-mice, ako ne i bolji.

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      • Sasha
        CBC Senator XXL
        • 04.10.2004
        • 4126
        • Novi Sad

        #18
        Originally posted by Ljuba
        The Alfa Romeo 169 will to arrive in 2008. It will share the Maserati Quattroporte?s platform. The 169 comes to replace the 166, a car that had never been a strong seller. The new Alfa Romeo will compete with models like Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class and future 2009 Porsche Panamera. The 169 will be one of the models that will be sold in USA on Alfa Romeo?s return.

        The 169 will be the first rear-wheel drive Alfa in nearly two decades. Based on the Quattroporte platform, the 169 will feature a longitudinal engine, RWD and a transaxle gearbox that will help the weight-distribution. This will make from the 169 a very good alternative to Mercedes, BMW and Lexus luxury sedans.

        The 169 will be designed at Alfa Romeo Styling Center. Comparing to the Quattroporte which has a length of 5.052 mm, the Alfa 169 will be shorter having the following dimensions: length - 4.950 mm, width - 1.900 mm and height - 1.400 mm.

        The engine range will consist of V6 and V8 units, which will drive the rear wheels through transaxle gearboxes. The engines will be: 2.8 liter V6 engine delivering 250 hp, 3.2 liter V6 engine delivering 285 hp. 3.6 liter V6 engine with an output of 320 hp, 4.3 liter V8 engine with an output of 400 hp at 6300 rpm and 368 lbs-ft and a 3.0 V6 diesel engine with an output of 275 hp and 457 lbs-ft. The top speed will start at 155 mph for the 2.8 liter V6 engine and will go up to 175 mph for the 4.3 V8 engine. The 0 to 60 mph sprint will be made in 6.1 seconds for the 2.8 liter V6 engine and going up to 5.2 seconds for the V8 engine.

        Later two more powerful engines will be added: a 4.0 liter V8 diesel engine with an output of 380 hp and 590 lbs-ft and the GTA 5.0 liter V8 with an output of 530 hp at 7000 rpm and 442 lbs-ft.

        Designed by the Alfa Romeo Styling Centre, the 169 will have number of distinctive features that will highlight its strong personality and make it immediately recognizable, in the best Alfa tradition. Starting from the front, which will be strong and essential, like all the models from the Alfa Romeo family and also the line of the entire 169 will give the impression of an aggressive car with elegant forms.

        We also believe that the 169 will be a Maserati Quattroporte featuring elements of design from the 8C Competizione. The 169 will have the same rear lights as the 8C Competizione.

        When will go on sale the 169 will have a prince on the range of $60.000 - $65000.
        izvor: http://www.topspeed.com/cars/alfa-romeo ... 18188.html
        Originally posted by mirdza
        which will drive the rear wheels through transaxle gearboxes

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        • GT
          CBC Senator XXL
          • 01.12.2006
          • 337
          • Beograd

          #19
          $60 000 je 50 000 eura, ne znam odakle ti cifra od 90 000?!
          "Driving an Alfa Romeo is not like driving an ordinary car in an ordinary context. It is pure driving desire turned into a car which is also the expression of one's personality. When you are in the driving seat, your hands on the leather steering wheel, you are at one with your Alfa Romeo: the road before your eyes, the tyres's grip on the road, your heart beating at the same rpm of your engine."

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          • Sasha
            CBC Senator XXL
            • 04.10.2004
            • 4126
            • Novi Sad

            #20
            To je cena za Americko trziste, a zna se koliko je Evropa skuplja. Da ne pricamo napamet ja sam odokativno procenio da ce cena biti ta zbog maserove platforme i motora. U svakom slucaju mislim da ce 169-ka biti EXTRA. A ovo sto brabus kaze da ce se gadjati sa 4porteom sam i ja pomislio u pocetku ali mislim da Italijani nisu toliko ludi da skacu ami sebi u usta, pogotovo u premijum segmentu.
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            • GT
              CBC Senator XXL
              • 01.12.2006
              • 337
              • Beograd

              #21
              Ono sto sam ja video je da je Americka roba jeftinija u Americi, a Evropska mnooogo skuplja i obrnuto! Plus sto su Evropski automobili tamo poprilicno stvar prestiza!
              Druga stvar, ta razlika u ceni od 30 000 eura bi mogla da stoji ako je u pitanju trziste na Marsu i u Evropi, ali ovako...

              U svakom slucaju stvarno nije bitno i ja verujem da ce 169 biti mracna i op-asna, ali opet... Svasta se pise po internetu i svako iznosi svoje komentare i pretpostavke, tako da sve to uzimam sa velikim znakom pitanja...
              "Driving an Alfa Romeo is not like driving an ordinary car in an ordinary context. It is pure driving desire turned into a car which is also the expression of one's personality. When you are in the driving seat, your hands on the leather steering wheel, you are at one with your Alfa Romeo: the road before your eyes, the tyres's grip on the road, your heart beating at the same rpm of your engine."

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              • Sasha
                CBC Senator XXL
                • 04.10.2004
                • 4126
                • Novi Sad

                #22
                Naravno da su stvar prestiza ali Alfa mora ponovo da se dokazuje u Americi, a samim tim ce ici sa nizom cenom za njihovo trziste. Cekamo 2008 pa cemo videti
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                • GT
                  CBC Senator XXL
                  • 01.12.2006
                  • 337
                  • Beograd

                  #23
                  Citam juce neke postove na temu komparacije Brere, RX8 i TT, pa mnogi svasta pricaju ali jedan od njih koji je Amerikanac je rekao da bi uzeo Breru zato sto vec ima 159 i da je predivan automobil! Pre nego sto ga je kupio dosta se razmisljao i na kraju je ipak odlucio i evo vozi ga vec 12 000 milja i sve radi savrseno, tako da je prezadovoljan Alfom koja se vratila na pravo mesto sto se tice kvaliteta!
                  Inace svi u svetu imaju isto misljenje o Alfi, kad god je neko pomene svi kazu prelepa, ali ne bi da stoji na autoputu i da ne zna sta mu se pokvarilo...
                  "Driving an Alfa Romeo is not like driving an ordinary car in an ordinary context. It is pure driving desire turned into a car which is also the expression of one's personality. When you are in the driving seat, your hands on the leather steering wheel, you are at one with your Alfa Romeo: the road before your eyes, the tyres's grip on the road, your heart beating at the same rpm of your engine."

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                  • Srdjan
                    CBC Senator XXL
                    • 30.09.2004
                    • 2416
                    • Bajina Basta/Beograd

                    #24
                    Ti si tako napisao tih 12.000milja kao da je presao 120.000 ili milion i dvesta... Pa da mu se desilo nesto za 12.000milja sigurno ne bi ponovo takav auto kupio pa makar to bila i Alfa...
                    Lancia Kappa 2.0 20v

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                    • charlee
                      CBC Početnik
                      • 29.01.2007
                      • 3
                      • Zagreb

                      #25
                      Ne znam da li je bilo već ovdje...





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