Muscle-nekada i sada

[Horsepower]

To rade oni kojima ne pravi razliku da li je auto iz GM-a, Forda i Chryslera. A onda opet imas one die hard fans koji nista u auto nebi stavili od konkurenta.

[starac vujadin]

Ja ne bih nikada menjao motor osim sto bih ga unapredio, ali bih menjao sve u kocnicama, donjem postroju, menjacu...To nista ne menja na vrednosti automobilu, ako je uradjeno vrhunski.

[luci]

ako bi radio '32 coupe menjao bi motor, ali ako bi radio recimo T/A iz '77 samo bi pojacao motor, zavisi sta bi radio.... prema tomo bi odredio sta menjam, a sta unapredjujem

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

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Sta mislite o ovome?



Muscle Cars Reborn

XV Motorsports turns Chrysler classics from the 1960s and '70s into modern racing rigs.

By Jason Harper
Bloomberg Markets November 2007

Police lights are flashing in the rear-view mirror of my yellow 1970 Dodge Challenger on a highway north of New York. It's understandable, since the classic car has a 5.7-liter Hemi under the hood, which produces a vroom-inducing 440 horsepower. Still, I'm under the speed limit.

The officer edges his cruiser alongside, and suddenly I understand. "You want to look at the car, don't you?" I say through my open window.

"Yeah, pull over, he says.

The car-mad state trooper recognizes that the Dodge is unique. Produced by XV Motorsports, this 38-year-old Challenger is actually very new. A muscle car reborn, if you will.

The company's president, John Buscema, is riding shotgun, and he's soon telling the officer about the car's refinements. While the exterior is original, the suspension, steering components, brakes and engine are new--all made for it using modern racing technology. The result, he promises, is a classic that handles like a modern sports car.

Buscema and partner Sean Hyland started XV (which stands for xtreme velocity) in 2005. They buy and rebuild Chryslers such as Dodge Chargers and Plymouth Challengers and Barracudas from the 1960s and '70s, retaining only the original shell. To achieve higher performance, XV Motorsports redoes almost everything else in Woodstock, Ontario, elevating the company to more than a mere aftermarket operation. The cars are in effect their own brand.

Each one is custom ordered and costs $140,000-$230,000, depending on the body (1970 and '71 'Cuda convertible shells bring top dollar), the size of the engine (a 6-liter Hemi with 600 hp is available) and options such as six-speed transmissions and GPS navigation systems. The company takes six to eight months to rebuild each vehicle. The company also sells mint- condition original muscle cars at its Irvington, New York, showroom for as much as six figures.

Hyland, who has years of experience developing aftermarket parts and engines, supervises the shop in Canada. The company's biggest challenge has been building the suspension systems-- springs and linkages that connect a car's body to its wheels. Among the drawbacks of the original models were their simple (and poor-handling) leaf-spring rear suspensions and solid rear axles.

Before taking on the rebuilt model, I drive a stock 1970 Challenger for comparison. It's a classic muscle car, with a big snout and flowing yet beefy lines. This one has a four-speed manual transmission and original interior, and it's loaded with rumbling power.

Making a nimble turn, though, is next to impossible. The steering is so loose that you have to spin the wheel all the way around for a turn to take effect. I wrestle with the wheel just to stay in my lane. Buscema laughs. "And this one was installed with the special handling package, too," he says.

Now I'm ready to test the XV Challenger, the company's prototype, which is not for sale. (In August, XV was building six cars for customers and can handle as many as 18 custom jobs a year.) Before I can open the car up, though, we are pulled over by the cop.

After he checks us out, he says, a bit mischievously, that he'll be driving the other way and we'll have the road to ourselves. "Just don't leave 30 feet of skid marks when you pull outta here," he says.

The XV Challenger is not an exercise in subtlety. It's hugely loud, even inside the car, and the tight suspension isn't especially accommodating to the spinal column. It's finicky in traffic, too, and I manage to stall it once.

On the open road, though, it comes alive. Buscema promises that the harder you push the XV into curves, the better it reacts. I run through the five speeds on the gearshift in quick succession--the noise from the V-8 reverberating through my chest--and the dotted yellow center line quickly blurs. We charge into a deep bend, and the car sets firmly onto my chosen line, with absolutely no body roll. The steering is as tight as the original Challenger's is loose. When I purposely try to upset the suspension, the car remains solid and sure. Even at high speeds on curves, it feels predictable. The brakes are equally sticky and fade free.

I'm impressed, and Buscema is grinning like a proud papa. Chrysler LLC's Dodge will be selling a new, revamped Challenger of its own in 2008. The concept car, first shown at the 2006 Detroit Auto Show, is a nice-looking vehicle. Still, it doesn't seem nearly as muscled and gritty as the original. And I'm betting that its XV brothers will spank Dodge's brand-new Challenger up and down the road and back again.

Jason Harper writes about autos for Bloomberg News in New York.

Otvorio sam novu temu upravo o ovome. A, inace ovo se zove Pro touring, ili Resto mod. Zapravo nova tehnologija u classic muscle cars-ima. XV su super, imaju stvarno velike planove, i zele da jednog dana rade kompletan Mopar program 64-74 u ovom fazonu. Za sada doduse znam samo za ovog gore pomenutog narandzastog '70 Challenger-a, o kome je u zadnje vreme dosta pisano i radjeno prilicno reportaza. Performance pa cak i skid-pad vreme kod ovog XV-ovog modela su dosta bolje od novog 2008 Challengera, (motor je isti 6,1 litarski HEMI), a to samo pokazuje koliko su se XV potrudili. Nazalost, kako su XV objavili, cene ce biti astronomske. Za ovu lepotu potrebno je izdvojiti preko 100.000$.

Koliko znam, osim ovog Chally-ja, uradili su jos i crvenu '71 Cudu. Uglavnom, ko je zainteresovan, imam slike ovog Challengera kao i video clip sa testiranja na stazi.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Ne znam da li je ko imao prilike da vidi, ili cuje, Ford su objavili da ce za 2008 godinu biti pripremljena specijalna serija Mustanga Bullit, na jubilej, 40-godisnjicu genijalnog filma sa Steve Mcqueen-om. Svi Bullit mustanzi ce biti ofarbani u tamno zelenu metalik boju kao toliko nam voljeni '68 GT350 iz pomenutog filma, 17 'inch American racing felne, kao i gomilu hromiranih detalja u unutrasnjosti i spolja, koji novom mustangu daju '60s smek kao nijednom do sada. Interesantana informacija je da su likovi iz Forda digitalno preslusavali DVD film ne bi li uspeli da u svakom delicu zapamte urlanje McQueen-ovog genijalnog '68 Mustanga iz filma, i onda to plasticno docaraju na novom 'stangu. Ford su radili silne prepravke na auspusima i loncima, ne bi li dobili 100% identican zvuk. Inace sto se tice pogonskog agregata u pitanju je i dalje dobro nam poznata 4,6L V8-ica, sada dodatno ispeglana i sa petnestak konja vise (oko 315KS ukupno). Photoshoot je izuzetno cool, i sniman je na originalnim lokacijama gde se snimala kultna trka izmedju McQueen-ovog 'stanga i crnog '68 Chargera.

Ko je vise zainteresovan evo super reportaze:

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/f ... index.html

A evo i slika:

[Horsepower]

Bilo nekoliko puta.

Inace, u tvom tekstu imaju 2 greske. Prva je da '68 Mustang iz Bullitta GT350 sto nije istina. Nije GT350 vec obican GT sa 390 cid motorom. Druga greska je da ce 2008 Bullitt biti dostupan samo u zelenoj boji sto nije istina (bice dostupan i u crnoj boji).

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Bilo nekoliko puta.

Inace, u tvom tekstu imaju 2 greske. Prva je da '68 Mustang iz Bullitta GT350 sto nije istina. Nije GT350 vec obican GT sa 390 cid motorom. Druga greska je da ce 2008 Bullitt biti dostupan samo u zelenoj boji sto nije istina (bice dostupan i u crnoj boji).

Ups, izvinjavam se, mora da mi je promaklo. My bad.

Sto se tice gresaka, drugu sam ispustio, ali za prvu sam bio ubedjen da je u pitanju bio modifikovani '68 'stang sa Shelby-jevim GT350 302cid V8 motorom. Oh well, svakim danom naucis nesto novo.

[Horsepower]

Dizajnerski '68 Shelby se poprilicno razlikovao od regularnog Mustanga.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

EDIT: Ne citiraj post tik iznad

Naravno. Medjutim, film sam gledao jako davno, tako da se zaista nisam tacno secao koji je bio McQueen-ov 'stang. Znam samo da je bio '68 i tamno zelene metalik. Isto i sa Vanishing Pointom. Secam se da je u pitanju bio beli '70 Challenger, al' sad da li je bio 440 Six Pack ili 426 Hemi, toga se vec ne secam.

[luci]

440 je bio u originalu, a u onom iz 1997 je hemi, barem je meni tako receno,

[Superbird]

Tacno, u prvom je 440 Supercharged

[starac vujadin]

"King of the Road"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-QXVLd21A

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Tom klincu treba izricito zabraniti da ikada vise sedne za volan. Slupati novog GT500, i to na kakav nacin, strasno...

[Horsepower]

Mislim da je samo replika, da nije pravi Shelby.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

U tom slucaju bi mi ipak bilo za nijansu lakse. Mada, ipak samo za nijansu...