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  • Jakovljevic
    CBC Senator
    • 11.10.2004
    • 205
    • Paracin

    #31
    Ce domaine est peut-être à vendre!

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    • BRABUS
      CBC Senator XXL
      • 15.10.2004
      • 2399
      • London

      #32
      Originally posted by Jakovljevic

      AMBULANTA DEL PONTEOVE
      IAKO poslednjih godinu-dve izbegava Srbiju, kada je put navede ovamo, glavni tužilac Haškog tribunala Karla del Ponte ima poseban vid obezbeđenja. Njeni automobili blindirani su osmim stepenom. U pratnji obično ide 5 automobila. Njena kola, što podrazumeva taj nivo, imaju u gepeku frižider. Untra su jedinice krvi, raznih krvnih grupa i glukoza. U slučaju atentata, prvo se daje glukoza, a posle krv, kada se utvrdi krvna grupa. U pratnji, pored obezbeđenja ide i specijalno vozilo Hitne pomoći, koje je takođe standarni A8. Svako vozilo ima satelitsko navođenje.

      ŠREDEROV POKLON ĐINĐIĆU
      BMV koji se video na snimku posle atentata na premijera Zorana Đinđića, poklon je nemačkog kancelara Gerharda Šredera srpskom premijeru. Taj automobil specijalno je dorađivan u nemačkoj fabrici u Ingolštadu. Imao je radio-vezu, ispod branika ukp vezu, najsavremeniji sistem za gašenje požara. Bio je otporan na rakete, tako da bi jedna od verzija atentata koju je planirao "zemunski klan" "zoljom" bio definitivno neuspešan.

      Novosti 26.10
      Tipican tekst iz Novosti, sve preterano i senzacionalisticki.

      Prvo, osmi stepen blindiranosti ne postoji, postoji samo B6/B7. Drugo, sanitetsko vozilo ne moze da bude standardni A8 Kad je Karla dolazila u Bg, isla je A8-micom sa svih strana okruzena Mitubishi Pajero dzipovima (5-6 njih) i iza je islo standardno vozilo hitne pomoci...ima negde slika, mislim na B92.

      Drugo....ona sedmica stara koja se vidi na snimku kad je ubijen Djindjic, uopste nije auto koji je Djindjic koristio. Djindjic, a kasnije Zivkovic su isli sa dva crna BMW-a 750il blindirana (B6/B7) i jednim audijem A8, tamnno sivim. Ta tri auta su uvek isla zajedno. Dok je Zivkovic bio premijer, kad god je bio u Nisu, a to je bilo jako cesto, ta tri auta su stajala ispred Niskog SUP-a. Onaj kojim je Djindjic odvezen, je sedmica sa pocetka devedesetih. BMW nema fabriku u Ingolstadt-u, vec je ima Audi, tako da je to jos jedna greska u tekstu Novosti.

      BTW. dok Zivkovic nije bio premijer, tj. dok je bio savezni ministar policije, cesto sam ga vidjao da sam vozi BMW 750il po gradu, bez pratnje, bez ikoga i to prilicno dobro

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      • sri98
        Admin od Trpeze
        • 24.10.2004
        • 7262
        • Republic of Konjarnik
        • Toyota Corolla E 210

        #33
        Originally posted by BRABUS
        [ isla je A8-micom sa svih strana okruzena Mitubishi Pajero dzipovima (5-6 njih)
        Greska, nije Pajero vec G klasa - AMG 55
        Kids in the back seat cause accidents, accidents in the back seat cause kids.

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        • Stefan1
          CBC Veteran
          • 27.10.2004
          • 137
          • Beograd

          #34
          Originally posted by Nikola
          .
          Predpostavlja se da ima gomilu hi-tech anti terorist dzidza bidza.
          Znaci neki fazon onih James Bond 007 automobila

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          • Black Knight
            CBC Senator XXL
            • 13.10.2004
            • 2020
            • Novi Beograd, kicblo

            #35
            gde me nadjoste...moja sped disciplina...


            OSV-96 rifle


            V-94 - early prototype of OSV-96

            Caliber: 12.7x108mm
            Operation: gas operated, rotating bolt
            Barrel: 1000 mm
            Weight: 12.9 kg less ammunition and telescope sight
            Length: 1746 mm (1154mm when folded)
            Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box magazine

            The OSV-96 12.7mm sniper rifle began its life during early 1990s as V-94. Designed and developed at famous KBP (Instrument Design Bureau) in Tula. During following years rifle incorporated several improvements, and was eventually re-designated as OSV-96. It is offered for export and local buyers, and apparently is used in small numbers by MVD troops in Chechnya.

            The OSV-96 is a gas operated, rotating bolt semiautomatic rifle. The bolt locks directly to the barrel extension, so it is possible to made a hinge between the barrel and receiver. When not in use, the OSV-96 could be "folded" around this hinge to save the space, since the rifle is quite long. This feature also allows for quick transformation from folded into battle-ready position. The long barrel is free-floated, and fitted with long combination muzzle brake - flash hider. The integral folding bipods are mounted on the special console, attached to the base of the barrel, next to the hinge point. The polymer buttstock is fitted with rubber recoil pad. OSV-96 is usually fitted with some sort of telescope or night vision sight, but also carries a set of back-up iron sights.

            The exact accuracy data of the OSV-96 is not yet published, but, apparently, it is enough for intended work as a anti-materiel rifle or mid-range counter-sniper rifle.
            Injection is good,but I'd rather be blown!

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            • Black Knight
              CBC Senator XXL
              • 13.10.2004
              • 2020
              • Novi Beograd, kicblo

              #36
              mogu li samo da probam, ako je toliko siguran onda se nece buniti...Mislim na Busha...


              Steyr AMR 5075


              Steyr IWS 2000


              Steyr 15.2mm cartridge compared to 7.62mm NATO (.308 Wichester) cartridge


              Steyr 15.2mm cartridge schematic


              Caliber(s): 15.2mm Steyr APFSDS
              Operation: long recoil, semi-automatic
              Barrel: 1200 mm
              Weight: 18 kg
              Length: 1800 mm
              Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box mag.


              The development of this interesting weapon began in mid-1980s, when Austrian company Steyr-Mannlicher AG decided to develop a long-range anti-materiel rifle (AMR) - a modern equivalent of the WW2-era antitank rifles. Main targets for AMR are light armoured vehicles, helicopters, installations such as radar cabins, missile launchers, fuel tanks etc. To achieve desired effective range of at least 1000 meters, Steyr engineers first decided to use APDS (armour piercing, discarding sabot), or sub-caliber, ammunition. Development started from 12.7mm cartridges, and later Steyr developed a 14.5mm APFSDS (Arnour percing, fin stabilised, discarding sabot) ammunition in 14.5mm caliber and built few prototypes with smooth bores and semi-automatic actions, called Steyr AMR 5075. Further development led to even bigger caliber of 15.2mm fith same ultra-high velocity APFSDS projectiles. This system is called Steyr IWS 2000 (Infantry Weapon System 2000) and currently is probably in Adsvanced Development status or ready for adoption.

              IWS 2000 is wery formidable weapon. It fires 20 gramm (308 grains) tungsten dart (fleschette) with muzzle velocity of 1450 meters per second (4750 fps). At 1000 meters this projectile will penetrate a 40 mm of RHA (rollded homogenous steel armour) and will result in serious secondary fragmentation effect behind the armour. That said, it will penetrate two walls of any modern APC at one kilometer range. The trajectory is very flat and does not rise higher than 800 mm above the line of sight when fired to 1000 meters. The cartridge is of somewhat original design, and has plastic case with steel head and base. The projectile is concealed within a plastic sabot.

              The rifle itself also is very interesting. Firs, it uses rare long-recoil system, when barrel recoils along with the bolt for significant lenght. At the end of the recoil, bolt unlocks from the barrel by rotating and held back, and barrel returns into forward position, ejecting a spent case. Bolt stays at the rearmost position while barrel moves, and then also moves forward, chambering a new round from the side-mounted magazine and finally locking rigidly to the barrel. This design allows for better recoil disttibution over a longer period of time. Huge muzzle brake also contributes to recoil control, so felt recoil of the IWS 2000 is descibed as a similar to the large-caliber sporting rifle. Five round detachable box magazine is located at the right side of the receiver and inclined down for about 45 degrees. The smooth-bore barrel can be easily detached, so rifle can be carried disassembled into two man-portable packs. Plastics are used where possible to reduce the weight of the gun. IWS 2000 is equipped with bipod and a rear leg under the buttstock. It is also equipped with 10X telescope as a standard.

              This is probably the most powerful modern anti-materiel rifle, and while it is not a true "sniper" rifle, it is well worth mentioning. The future of this design is also unclear, sice it requires ammunition of a brand new type.
              Injection is good,but I'd rather be blown!

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              • Black Knight
                CBC Senator XXL
                • 13.10.2004
                • 2020
                • Novi Beograd, kicblo

                #37
                i mi konja za trku imamo...



                M-93 Black Arrow rifle, right side; front sight folded



                Caliber: .50BMG (12.7x99mm); also available in 12.7x108mm
                Operation: manual bolt action, rotating bolt
                Barrel: 1000 mm
                Weight: 16 kg
                Length: 1670 mm
                Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box magazine

                The M-93 Crna Strela ("Black Arrow") .50 caliber sniper rifle had been developed by the Zastava Arms factory in Kragujevc during 1990s. Since late 1990s it is used by Yugoslavian armed forces. It is also exported in various countries, including the USA.

                The M-93 is a bolt action rifle, with action strongly resembling the famous Mauser rifle, stretched out accordingly for much bigger cartridge. The receiver features a scope rail and a back-up rear open sight; the folding front sight is mounted on the barrel. heavy free-floated fluted barrel is fitted with large and effective muzzle brake, which decreases the felt recoil down to acceptable level. Rifle is fitted with buttstock, which is adjustable for length of pull, and with the integral folding bipods at the front of the receiver. The folding carrying handle is mounted above the bipods. Standard scope is 8X32 fixed power. M-93 feeds ammunition from 5-round detachable box magazines. The safety is located within the trigger guard, behind the trigger, an blocks trigger when engaged.

                jos dve zanimljive slikice...






                i...
                Model Number:M93
                Description: .50 BMG Cal. Mauser Bolt Action Black Arrow Target Rifle
                Price:6,500.00$

                064/12-89-***
                Injection is good,but I'd rather be blown!

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                • Jakovljevic
                  CBC Senator
                  • 11.10.2004
                  • 205
                  • Paracin

                  #38
                  ljudi bre, pa ovo imamo i mi tkz. crna strela, zavrsio sam vojsku pre nepunih god dana i bio sam snajperista, ova cuda smo imali na bazma, al da bi opalili metak iz njih verovatno bi trebalo traziti dozvolu licno od Krge, jos imao je optiku 16x , stvarno mocno oruzije, namenjeno za unistavanje neprijateljskih vozila kao i zive sile!!!!
                  ovo ne da probija blindiran auto, nego bi i na drugu stranu auta izsao metak i to bez problema...

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                  • Nikola
                    CBC Senator XXL
                    • 29.09.2004
                    • 975
                    • Indjija/Vojvodina

                    #39
                    he he, pa lepo ti Ranko gore napisa, nije samo da mi to imamo, nego smo mi to i napravili
                    .:Cuore Sportivo:.
                    Alfa Romeo 145 1.6 Boxer 103HP 96`

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                    • Black Knight
                      CBC Senator XXL
                      • 13.10.2004
                      • 2020
                      • Novi Beograd, kicblo

                      #40
                      The M-93 Crna Strela ("Black Arrow") .50 caliber sniper rifle had been developed by the Zastava Arms factory in Kragujevc during 1990s. Since late 1990s it is used by Yugoslavian armed forces. It is also exported in various countries, including the USA.
                      Large caliber rifles
                      Austria
                      Steyr IWS 2000
                      Steyr .50 HS
                      Croatia
                      RT-20
                      Czech republic
                      Falcon
                      France
                      PGM UR Hecate II
                      Great Britain
                      AI Arctic Warfare .50
                      Russia
                      SVN-98
                      KSVK 12.7
                      OSV-96
                      South Africa
                      Truvelo .50
                      Mechem NTW-20
                      USA
                      M500 M600 M650
                      Armalite AR-50
                      Barret M82
                      Barret M90 & M95
                      Barret M99
                      Yugoslavia
                      Black Arrow M93


                      Standart caliber rifles
                      Austria
                      Steyr SSG
                      Steyr Scout Tactical
                      Belgium
                      FN 30-11
                      FN Police Rifle
                      Czech Republic
                      CZ 700
                      Finnland
                      Saco TRG
                      France
                      FR F2
                      PGM Ultima Ratio
                      PGM Mini-Hecate .338
                      Germany
                      HK PSG-1
                      HK MSG-90
                      Walther WA2000
                      Mauser SP66
                      Mauser 86SR
                      Blaser 93 Tactical
                      AMP TS DSR-1
                      SSG-82
                      Erma SR-100
                      Great Britain
                      Enfield L42A1 & Enforcer
                      Parker-Hale M82
                      AI Arctic Warfare / L96
                      AI AE
                      Israel
                      Galil sniper
                      Italy
                      Beretta sniper
                      USA
                      Barret M98
                      Armalite AR10(t)
                      M21
                      Remington 700
                      M24
                      M40
                      Kinights SR-25
                      Savage 10FP & 110FP
                      RAI / RAP model 300
                      FN SPR
                      CheyTac Intervention
                      USSR / Russia
                      Dragunov SVD
                      SVU
                      VSS
                      SV-98
                      SV-99
                      VSK-94
                      Swiss
                      SIG SG550 Sniper
                      Sig-Sauer SSG 2000
                      Sig-Sauer SSG 3000
                      SIG STR/SHR 970
                      Yugoslavia
                      Zastava M76 new
                      Injection is good,but I'd rather be blown!

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                      • Family
                        CBC Član
                        • 17.06.2011
                        • 23
                        • Sabac

                        #41
                        Istine i zablude ili koliko ko zna toliko i napiše...

                        Smešno je gledati fabrički blindirane automobile i izvesti zaključak da ne štite,da su reklama i šminka.
                        Da pođemo redom: Delimično su u pravu oni koji nikada ne bi kupili fabrički blindiran auto,jer NIKO NIKADA I NIGDE nije poslao takav automobil u Avganistan,Irak ,Pakistan i slične zemlje suočene sa svakodnevnim rešetanjem i eksplozivnim napravama (IED).Ne postoji policija u svetu koja masovno koristi fabričke džipove npr. za svoje operativne zadatke.Na stranu što su fabrički blindirana vozila duplo ili 3 x skuplja od istih blindiranih u fabrikama koje rade samo to.Usput Obama nije zbog malog budžeta izbegao fabrički blindiran automobil ili Pakistanski funkcioneri koji su svaki dan izloženi raketiranju,podmetanju i rešetanju od kuće do posla
                        Naravno balistički standardi su takođe različiti,pa ne računajte oznaku EU oznaku CEN B4 da može da vas zaštiti od duge cevi,tj. štiti samo od pištoljske municije,uključujući i magnum,TT,uzi,skorpion i sl...i to 3 hica sa 3 metra rastojanja ili bolje reći ako vam prisloni magnum cev na staklo i opali jednom,drugi put će opaliti u vas direktno.To je tzv. soft armoring.Da ne pišem da se računa uglavnom napadni ugao od 45-60 stepeni,sem izuzetno kod nekih firmi ugao od 90 stepeni.Poenta je da postoji nekoliko vrsta balističkih čelika Dynamic npr. i stakala,koji menjaju klasičan lim na vozilima i stakla,tako da kapsula sa putnicima biva zaštićena kako od puščane i snajperske municije tako i od eksplozivnih naprava 'usput' ili 'ispod'.Postoje i opcije kada se između balističkih čelika i lima poda i krova stavlja balističko saće koje dodatno upija eksploziju i sprečava prodor u kabinu,a to se dodatno plaća...jer na kraju klijent konfiguriše vozilo po svojoj želji.Zaštita akumulatora,kompjutera i hladnjaka se podrazumeva s tim da postoje opcije sa duplim napajanjem i niz dodatne opreme/dimne zavese,plamen,protivpožarni sistemi za motor,elektro-šok karoserija (doplata 2400e u USA npr.)interfoni,sirene i mnogo toga drugog.Run flat sistem za vožnju sa uništenim pneumaticima bar 50-80km brzinom od najmanje 50km/h ima skoro svaki blindirani auto,a neki brendovi poput Michelina su razvili i sopstvene sisteme tako da nije potrebno dodatno praviti karbon-plastične navlake na felnama ispod guma.
                        Evo dole jedne od balističkih tabela,a fotografije su testovi jedne nemačke firme na eksplozivne naprave najviše 2 metra od prednjeg stuba vozila sa strane.Blindirani automobili su sada samo 20-30% teži i znači težina jedino kod eksplozija,jer lagan auto,a dobro zaštićen,eksploziv oduva u 'njivu',pa mada nema šrapnela ni štete u kabini putnici su izloženi prevrtanju..tako da nije zgoreg da ima i na težini...




                        Protection Level: VPAM BRV 2009 VR7 (Includes CEN VR6+/ BR6+
                        Roof protection: Against a minimum of two DM 51 grenades or one HG85 grenade
                        Floor protection: Against a minimum two DM 51 or two HG85 grenades
                        Side blast protection: Against 12.5 kg PETN (equivalent to 15kg Geosit)
                        IED Land mine: Floor protection against a minimum of two DM 31 land mines








                        Evropski blindirani jesu po 100000e skoro skuplji od američkih čak i sa re-eksportom preko SRN koji je potreban za vozila iz USA,ali fakturisanjem blindiranja posebno i auta posebno može se uvesti veoma jako blindiran auto iz USA po ceni dobro opremljenog 'običnog' automobila te marke i tipa.U opremi ne zaostaju američki modeli,homologacija u SRN traje 3 dana i košta od 1400-2000e,čak naprotiv.S tim da će vam svaki proizvođač izaći u susret i navigaciju,dvd/tv sisteme i sl. podesiti na EU standarde.Promena sata u KM se podrazumeva,mada za homologaciju nije potrebna.
                        Evo Mercedesa S550 4MATIC AMG 2008 godište sa pogledajte koliko milja na satu (sajamski eksponat) i to od firme koja ima ugovor sa Vladom SAD,Kongresom i UN do 2016-e godine o isporuci vozila i balističke opreme.A cena...
                        Oba auta ispod imaju zaštitu A9/B6+ (neznatno manju od Predsedničkog u komšiluku...)





                        A evo i novog 2011.



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