Novi muscle cars

[BRABUS]

Da si seo u Charger ili se provozao, video bi da od Mercedesa ne moze da se vidi ni M nigde...skroz americki auto, materijali, dizajn, nacin sedenja...

Kazes saradnja nije trebala - pa tesko da bi danas postojao Chrysler da te saradnje nije bilo. Posle desetina milijardi evra MB-ovog profita koji je upumpavan za ozivljavanje Chryslera, Daimler je morao da plati nekom da preuzme Chrysler, koji je 1998. platio 34 milijarde.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

U Chargeru nisam sedeo, video sam slike kako izgleda unutra, i naravno tu nema veze sa Mercedesom. Izbor motora je totalno USA, sve sa HEMI-jem na vrhu, kao slagom na tortu. Nikada to nisam stavljao u pitanje. Ono sto meni smeta kod novog Chargera je njegov spoljasnji izgled koji, opet po mom misljenju, ima debeo Mercedesov smek.

Sto se tice Chryslera, cinjenica je da je upao u gadne nevolje jos krajem 80-tih, i da je Merc sa ulaganjem love donekle spasao situaciju. Mada, po meni, americka auto industrija se nikad nije potpuno oporavila posle naftne krize 70-tih, i da nisu ni blizu onoga sto su bili tamo 60-tih. To je bio period kada su pisane najlepse stranice automobilske istorije.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Naravno, nova Muscle car era je na pomolu, i to me strasno raduje.
Svi novi muscle car modeli, sem Chargera su mi se extra svideli, sa D2C Mustangom i '08 Challengerom na vrhu liste!

[luci]

ja u chargeru ne vidim ni mrvu mercedesa sto se dizajna tice kao ni u 300c daleko su mi lepsi od bilo cega sot izadje iz mercedesa mada ima izuzetaka

[Horsepower]

[quotero_Touring_Mopar][quote="HEMI 426":339d34nk]

Jednostavno, uticaj Mercedesove C klase je nekako suvise ocigledan.

ajd objasni molim te! [/quote:339d34nk]


Pa svi znamo da je LX platforma prakticno pozajmljena od Mercedesa. Prednje suspenzije su pozajmljene od starije generacije S-klase, zadnje 5-link vesanje je uzeto od prethodne E-klase, kao i 5-stepeni automatski menjac, zadnji diferencijal i EPS. Posle svega ovoga, gledajuci 300C, kao i Charger, koji je jako slican njemu, ne mogu a da ne pomislim da je Mercedes umesao svoje prste i u dizajn ovih automobila. Prednji kraj sa onim velikim grill-om mi je nekako suvise Mercedesovski.

Kad je nova C klasa u pitanju... ne znam, ali onaj veliki grill i namrsteni kockasti farovi (koji su inace Mercedesov trademark), suvise podsecaju na ono sto imamo na novom Chargeru... Mozda malo preterujem, ali definitivno smatram da saradnja sa Merdzom, Chrysler-u nikako nije trebala... [/quote:339d34nk]

Chrysler takve grilove koristi vec duze vreme, i pre nego sto je saradnja sa Mercedesom pocela.

[Horsepower]

Previse je skup da bi bio muscle cars, ali ima sve ostale karakteristike

Ovo je prava masina, M, S i AMG bi trebali malo da pripaze. 6.2L supercharged iz ZR-1 Corvette sa minimalno 525 hp (Corvette ce imati 650 hp). Naravno, rec je o Cadillac CTS-V.

[Horsepower]

Spijunske slike novog Mustanga.

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Koliko mogu da ocenim prema ovim slikama, ne bih rekao da je u pitanju potpuno novi model. Moguce da su se odlucili za blagi restajling, mada se nadam da je ovo samo uvod u predstavljanje novog Boss-a.

[Horsepower]

Nova opcija na Mustangu pocev od 2009. godine - stakleni krov. Ova opcija ce biti $2,000.

[Horsepower]

Prve slike 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1.

6.2L supercharged V8 sa 650 hp, cena oko $100,000.

[HEMI 426]

sta da napisem a da ne ispadnem patetican...
ne verujem da postoji bolji sportski automobil na svetu, jedva cekam prve testove!

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Prve slike 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1.

6.2L supercharged V8 sa 650 hp, cena oko $100,000.

Prelepo, zaista prelepo...

[Pro_Touring_Mopar]

Evo nesto informacija u vezi novog GM-ovog LS9 agregata koji ce se ubacivati u 2009. ZL1 'Vettu.

Displacement Drops
The new LS9 exceeds the LS7 in every area except one, displacement. The main reason for the drop in displacement was strength. GM's plan for the LS9 included a supercharger and they felt the 427 cubic-inch block wasn't strong enough to reliably hold up to the intended boost. Instead, a beefed up 6.2-liter LS3 block will be used. Starting in '09, all 6.2L blocks, including truck blocks, will feature this 20 percent increase in bulkhead strength. According to Tom Reed, of GM, "All the blocks benefited in '08 with a 20 percent increase because of the LS3 improvements. Therefore, since 2007 the bulkhead area strength has increased 40 percent. Something to keep in mind when the 6.2L blocks start showing up in the bone yards, way down the road." The 319-T5 aluminum block, with forged steel bearing caps, will also be deck plated, bored, and honed. The LS9 will also feature eight block-mounted oil squirters. These squirters will keep chamber temps down and lessen drivetrain noise. This is the first time GM has used oil squirters in a small-block application. By sharing the casting across the LS3 line, costs will be kept down.

Forging Ahead
The use of exotic titanium will continue to be used in the engines rods, but GM has moved to forged 9.1:1 compression pistons. The floating pin- pistons are anodized on the top and the skirts are polymer coated. Turning it all will be a forged steel micro-alloy crankshaft.

Boosting Up The Power
For the first time ever the new super 'Vette will come from the factory with a supercharger under the hood. The Eaton Gen VI Twin Vortices Series (TVS) supercharger exceeds the previous Gen V supercharger in several key areas. The main area is in blower displacement. The larger displacement of the new Gen VI unit expands the range of the compressor's effectiveness, building power more quickly at lower rpm and sustaining it through higher rpm. The 2.3L displacement of the Eaton will provide maximum boost of 10.5 psi.
Inside the supercharger is a new, four-lobe rotor arrangement that tops 15,000 rpm, thus helping sustain airflow at high engine rpm. Also, the intermeshing design of the lobes helps quiet the supercharger, even at high rpm. In fact, the new Gen VI four-lobe blower design provides up to 10 dBa less case-radiated noise than the Gen V blower.

Air To Water Intercooler
The new air to liquid tube-in-fin intercooler will help to lower inlet temps by up to 140 degrees Fahrenheit. The dual aluminum brick intercooler will have its own separate dedicated system with a 3.62-liter reservoir mounted in front of the radiator. One of the most impressive feats of this new system is how it's packaged into such a compact form. GM engineers were tasked with keeping the overall dimensions of the new LS9 in line with the LS7. This way, no huge bulge will be needed on the new ZL1 'Vette.

Other Improvements And Details
To keep the engine as low as possible, GM opted to run a two-belt system on the LS9. The air conditioning and alternator will run on a separate 6-rib belt while the blower, power steering, and water pump will run off an 11-rib belt. To handle the extra strain, the water pump bearing was beefed up.
Oil capacity was increased for the system since the ZR1 has an expanded performance envelope compared to the Z06. The result is a 33 percent increase in oil capacity. That means you'll need 10.75 quarts of oil instead of the previous 8 quarts when you do an oil change. The increased oil supply will result in the mill handling 30 percent more g's. This increase in oil capacity will also be integrated into the LS7 engine in the Z06.

The Bottom Line
While GM didn't give the final power number of the LS9, Sam Winegarden stated that: "There's no way it's leaving Wixom with less that 620 horsepower and 600 lb-ft of torque!" That would equate to an output of 100 horsepower per liter of displacement, making it the most powerful production vehicle engine in GM's history. Equally important to GM, was the LS9's refinement, driveability, and durability. Despite having 23 percent more power over the LS7, the LS9 delivers an 11 percent improvement in idle performance over the LS7. The GM engineers have also increased the thermal efficiency by 15 percent and lowered parasitic loss by 35 percent over the last generation supercharger. Manufacturing has been easier since 76 percent of the parts in the LS9 carry over from other GM small-blocks. In terms of durability, the LS9 has already been validated to over 100,000 miles. That's 6,800 hours on the dyno with more than 100 of them at WOT. This is a good thing since we bet these new engines will be spending quite a bit of time clawing at the upper rpm.

[Horsepower]

Uhvacen Camaro bez maske.

[Horsepower]

Nevidjeno mi se svidja iako je Chevy.