U cemu sedimo? Slike posle udesa pre demontiranja

[BRABUS]

Pa da...Volvo, koji je vazio za jedan od najsigurnijih automobila tad, a vidis kako je zavrsio.

[M-power]

Pa jeste.
Nego Brick, te price su malo satro-gistro.....preuvelicane.
Tako obicno svi pricaju koji se slupaju. Ako su isli 120km kazu da su isli 150km a na sve to ljudi zaboravljaju refleksno stisnutu kocnicu gde je brzina pala ispod 80km/h. Mislim oni su videli sudar sa 120km/h ali brzina u vreme udara je bila mnogo manja kako jednog ucesnika tako i drugog.
Mislim...budimo realni....direktan sudar je nesto drugo, puca sve....... sve je moguce i sve se desava u zivotu pa i to da se neko slupao sa 10km/h i poginuo pa do toga da su neki preziveli havarije sa 200km/h i to sa nekim krsevima ali to su uglavnom retki izuzeci, sletanja s puta ili ispadanja iz kola pri sudaru a nikako frontalni sudari sa kamionima gde su brzine sabrate kao 200km/h.

[Eon]

Dovoljno je izracunati masu tela puta ubrzanje u trenutku udara i da se dobije xxxxxxx vrednost. Tada se shvati da nije bas realno preziveti bez ogrebotine sudar pri 150 km na cas.

[Zloran]

Najpoznatiji udes pri 120 km/h
auto: MB (koji ?, veliki)
mesto: Pariz - tunel
zrtve: princeza Diana, Dodi, Anri Paul

[sw.brick]

hm, zar nije brzina 220km/h u pariskom tunelu.

zar nije telohranitelj (koji je izgleda jedini bio vezan pojasom) preziveo, doduse sa povredama.

auto je MB W140 i pri tih najmanje 200 (kako svi dostpuni izvori i podaci kazu) kabina se nije raspala na vise delova.

ako je makar jedan putnik preziveo takav udar znaci da je moguce. i ima toga i sa slucajevima manje poznatih imena, u izvestajim osiguravajucih kompanija koje vode vrlo pedantnu statistiku o takvim pitanjim avec decenijama.[/quote]

[sw.brick]

Mislim...budimo realni....direktan sudar je nesto drugo, puca sve.......

o tome i pricam, realni zivot sto kazu pise romane.
brzina konkretnog udara pri 160 nije ono sto je vozac rekao, vec je naknadno ustanovljena od strane policije.
slazem se da puca sve...ali samo tamo gde treba..a to su crumple zones koje su i predvidjen da pucaju.


ono sto nije predvidjeno i ne sme da puca po savovima na delice je putnicka kabina- kavez.

nikako frontalni sudari sa kamionima gde su brzine sabrate kao 200km/h.

sto jer ne verujes ?

hoces link na izvestaj i fotografije, i izjavu ocevica ?

ne kazem da je pravilo da ce svaki puta svako u svakom vozilu preziveti 200 km/h direktni udar, samo kazem da je to moguce u dobro konstruisanim i izradjenim automobilima a sto pokazuje praksa.

i da sto je bolje izradjen auto vece su sanse za prezivljavanje a sto je vise takvih auta manje je poginulih u praksi, statisticki.

[sw.brick]

Dovoljno je izracunati masu tela puta ubrzanje u trenutku udara i da se dobije xxxxxxx vrednost.

to je unapred poznata vrednost, i poznata je konstruktorima auta kao sto je poznata svakome ko pozeli da sracuna tako da postoji kao jasan podatako koji se uzima pri konstrukciji karoserije- od detalja debljine i zilavosti celika, mesta i nacina zavarivanja, mesta postavljanja i nacina ucvrscivanja motora i drugih sklopova, proracun guzvanja tacno odredjenih delova lima na tacno odredjen nacin i odredjenom brzinom itd.

a mogu i sve te poznate cinjenice da se ne koriste i zaborave pa auto nema konstrukciju u kojoj je maximalno moguce uzimana u obzir kineticka energija kretanja vozila.

stvar je izbora konstruktora, i tu se i kriju najvece razlike medju autima po mom razumevanju- sta je kome prioritet. da li lepota lima i izbor boje ili vrsta i osobine lima pri apsorpciji sila u sudaru.

vec je pokazano u praksi F1 konstrukcija da postoje metodi da se i pri 300km/h direktnom udaru u prepreku napravi (na zaboravimo malecna bez motora kao zastite) kabina koja omogucava prezivljavanje.
jeste skup materijal i izrada ali je moguce kontrolisati ponasanje vozila i pri takvim silama interakcije.

[TAZZ]

ewe slike mog minulog rada....Auto je Fiat Argenta 2.0 85Kw(Valjda)






izvinjavam se na slikama... ako su malo velike...
P.S. A bio je tako dobar AUTO!!!

[sw.brick]

http://au.geocities.com/ozbrick850/cras ... kaze2.html

opis direktnog sudara, ukratko

I dont know if any of you read the Bergen Record (Bergen County, NJ)....but the other day on the front
page there was a picture of a guy who survived a head on crash with a guy who was trying to kill
himself (and did!). The kamakazi driver was going east in the westbound lanes of Rt.80....It was about
04:00, and he did not turn on his head lights until just before impact. He impacted a 1998 S70...he was
in a 199X Honda?. Both cars were traveling in excess of 75MPH. The driver of the Honda was killed
on the spot! The driver of the S70 who had his seat belt on was only brused up, and had to spend the
night in the hospital.

[sw.brick]

http://au.geocities.com/ozbrick850/745crash2.jpg

The attached picture is of the car of an acquaintance, who was hit head-on by a four wheel drive pickup pulling a trailer loaded with livestock. I can't imagine the force that the truck and trailer had as they ploughed into the front of the 740 wagon (no air bags). However, air bags wouldn't have helped much in this situation. The Volvo driver had both legs broken. He endured several months of physiotherapy, and is now walking without aid of a cane, and, of course, drives a v70. Notice how the pickup truck wheels are off the ground

[sw.brick]

I have been driving for well over 20 years and pride myself in being a skilled driver.

This is what happened to me in my 1993 Volvo 850-GLT 5-speed manual sedan:
I was on the famous US. East Coast corridor, I-95 in Connecticut. I was driving at a speed of around 70 mph. I was rear-ended by a huge
tractor-trailer truck (aka Mack truck) who apparently crested the hill just after me and didn't think I'd be there. When he hit me, I felt my car bump, then it became airborne. It was thrown up and over the guardrail dividing the highway and onto the other side of the highway (I was driving on the northbound side and landed on the southbound side). Upon landing, I found myself partway crashed into the guardrail. I WAS WEARING MY SAFETY BELT. The airbags did not deploy. I walked away from the scene with absolutely no injury whatsoever. I didn't even feel sore (a mild backache occurred 2 days later and lasted 1 day). The emergency personnel on the scene (medical and police) were convinced that I HAD to be injured - if not on the outside, then it must be internal injuries. They couldn't accept the fact that I was not injured. One by one, maybe three different ones came over to talk to me to say that I really should let them take me to the hospital because I was probably in shock (I wasn't) and coudn't feel the pain of the (non-existent) injuries. When I refused, they'd walk away shaking their heads.

When I got out of the car and saw the wreck, I could see why all the concern. The car was absolutely totalled. There wasn't any way to identify what type of car it had been, even. The only part of the car that was not literally mangled was the cockpit. When the insurance adjusters came and saw it, they wanted to take an extra photograph of the wreck to send to Volvo with a note saying I'd walked away uninjured. They were very impressed.

That's why I've owned only Volvos for many years, and now, and will as long as I drive.

[sw.brick]

pri 90mph zbirno, to je nekih 140 km/h

Four miles from home we were hit head-on by a drunk driver (0.27 alcohol level) who completely crossed the
centerline in a 1978 Ford F-150 pickup (pre-yuppie assault vehicle) on a country road. My speed was ~45mph and his
was estimated at ~45 mph, thus the 90 mph approximate closing speed...

For a dumb reason known only to me, I did not have my seatbelt on, though my boyfriend did. ...
sve sa slikama.
ovaj je bas imao srece, nije imao cam ni pojas vezan.


itd...

http://au.geocities.com/ozbrick850/crashstory.html

sve iz realnog zivota dogadjaji.

naravno, tu je i druga strna medalje, sa poginulima a sto jepobrojano na dnu date stranice-linka.

moje misljenje je da nije doboljo predati se i reci mora da se gine pri sudaru, svejedno je kako je konstruisan auto.

nije svejedno

[Djole]

@TAZZZBOY

Svaka ti cast!
I potseti me da ti nikada ne dam kljuceve svog auta.......

"-Ma vozi brze.....
-Ne mozemo brze. Jurimo 30....
-Naravno kada je tvoj blesavi sin raskant'o masinu!"

[TAZZ]

@ Djole
Eh sad i ti na kraj srca... pa znash da nisam kriv...
A i znash da "dobro vozim" , a Vectru si obetjao da tjesh dati...
Datjesh datjesh nego shta tjesh....

[Djole]

@TAZZZBOY

Samo mi je stalo, da te muchim malo......

Ma chim sredim j....o kvacilo , tj cim se gazda otvori za platu ............sedamo u munju i pravac Shabac

A tamo znash vec shta i znash vec ko